These were taking over the yard of the last place I lived. I never ate them then, my understanding then was that they are toxic. Since then I ran across something that suggested the opposite. Like I said, I'm glad to know they are not good to eat. And they don't look appetizing. I am looking into some vines to grow. I'm strongly considering pyracantha. I don't want any toxic plants on my property, if I can help it. Plus, virginia creeper seems to be invasive here, in this part of California.